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0015756MediaMonkey 5Main Panelpublic2020-02-25 22:37
Status feedbackResolutionreopened 
Product Version5.0 
Target Version5.0Fixed in Version5.0 
Summary0015756: 'Manage views' functionality seems broken / incomplete
DescriptionI configured another order for columns in "My view" :

1) the columns order is unchanged when I switched from 'List view' to 'My view'

2) I cannot define which sub-views should be enabled for "My view"\

Edits by Rusty:
1)b) Column chooser is difficult to use because it's a modal dialog and many of the columns aren't visible. Perhaps change the orientation to vertical OR at least display the columns as compactly as possible
1)c) Sorting should be implemented by a 'Sort by:' option (since the current sorting mechanism is non-intuitive)
1)d) Is there a reason why List views don't have a Group by: option (i.e. it's unclear why there's a special view for 'Albums & tracks'--why can't it just be a List view with a 'Group by' option?)

3) 'Browser' view should have options for what displays within (besides the 'Collection grid'). e.g.:
a) Suggested Artists
b) Suggested Albums
c) Pinned items

4)a) For any Grid view or subview that contains images (e.g. Artist suggestions), image size should be a configurable option
b) Ideally, there should be a 'default' image size configured in e.g. Library>Appearance so that users can configure default image size _once_. That way users can leave the 'default' setting in most cases, and only change the setting for specific views.

5) Options > Media Tree should allow the user to configure the views associated with root nodes of the media tree along with the views associated with the Child nodes. This implies:
a) If the user configures Collection options for 'Music', there should be an additional tab for Views (immediately following the 'Criteria' tab). It would contain the same content as 'Manage views' for the Music node.
b) Change 'Tree nodes' --> 'Sub-nodes & Views'
c) It should be possible to edit the Views associated with 'Sub-nodes' by:
. . i) clicking an 'Edit' button
. . ii) double-clicking the subnode
In either case, the 'Manage views...' dialog associated with the subnode should open.
d) Change Media Tree --> Collections & Views
e) Edit Media Tree --> Edit and configure nodes to display
f) Media Tree Item --> Content to display

6) Unless I'm misunderstanding how this is supposed to work, there seems to be a conflict between the Collection config and the Views config--they each respectively give the user the ability to choose what columns to display within a Collection / View, and yet Views are configured independently of Collections. Is this an issue?

NOTE: Once 'Manage views...' is correctly implemented, we should probably eliminate the current context-menu based approach as it is quite messy (especially if we add view configuration options that are missing from the context menu).

TBD (yet to be evaluated):
Other collection-level nodes: Classical, Podcasts, Audiobooks, Music Video, Video, TV, Playlists, Devices & Services, Folders, Pinned
Other top level nodes: Years, Publishers, Rating, Classification, Location, Files to Edit
Lower level nodes: AlbumName, ArtistName, GenreName, etc.
TagsNo tags attached.
Fixed in build2220


related to 0015926 closedrusty Improvements to navigation of Playlist/Folder hierarchy 
related to 0016391 feedbackjiri List views are not configured/saved per-node 
parent of 0015584 closedpetr Views: Subviews should persist on a per-view basis 
related to 0015112 resolvedmichal Missing features in some views 
related to 0015712 resolvedrusty "Art View", "Browser View", "Grid View" - why different names for the same view 
related to 0015801 resolvedrusty Playlists: Grid View is not available 
related to 0014086 closedmichal Add 'Column browser'/Filter to more views 
related to 0016070 closedmichal Choose columns dialog crashes when changing columns visibility - regression. 
related to 0016266 resolvedLudek "Grid (by Album)" view is missing from some views 



2019-10-22 08:47

developer   ~0055070

Last edited: 2019-10-22 10:23

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re 1d) i've rather removed Group By option (as there were always just one option). Reason we have 'List' and 'List (by album)' is because this list refrects viewAs options in view handler
re 2) based on 0014132 item 5 sub-views are not configurable


2019-11-06 19:17

developer   ~0055235



2019-11-26 18:21

developer   ~0055507



2019-11-29 21:58

developer   ~0055568

Verified 2218

Left resolved till Rusty confirm.


2019-12-05 20:01

administrator   ~0055605

Bug 1576
2) Subview configuration:
Image size is configurable for view types in which they don't appear (e.g. Type: List)

7) Layout issues:
A) In the 'Configure View' dialog, 'Preset name' should be changed to 'Name'.
B) 'Image size' shouldn't be a button and shouldn't be aligned with the OK/Cancel buttons since it's an attribute, and should be visually associated with all other attributes.

8) When the user adds a new view, the cursor is initially in the Preset Name field, but typing has no effect!

9) New views don't work right away:
1 Music > All tracks
2 Manage views > Add new
3 Create 'Test view'. Remove a few columns (file/path), change the sort order (rating a..z), and enable subview:column filter. Click OK 2x.
--> A) 'List' view appears (instead of 'Test view' which was selected when the user clicked OK at step 3)!
--> B) 'List' view has the column/sort settings of 'Test view', but without the subview!
4 Click the Views dropdown button
--> C) 'Test view' isn't shown as an option!
5 Click 'Manage Views' and select 'Test view'
--> 'Test view' appears correctly (with the expected subview unlike B)
6 Switch to 'List' view
--> 'List' view displays correctly (unlike A)

10) Deleted views don't update right away:
0 Switch to 'List view'
1 Manage views > Select 'Test view' and press DELETE, and click OK
2 Click the Views dropdown button
--> 'Test view' is still listed as an available option!
3 Switch to a different view and click the Views dropdown
--> 'Test view' is now removed.

11) This is a variant of 8, in which deleting the active view --> crash
0 Switch to 'Test view'
1 Manage views > Select 'Test view' and press DELETE, and click OK
2 Click the Views dropdown button
--> 'Test view' is still listed as an available option!
3 Switch to a different view and click the Views dropdown
--> 'Test view' remains.
--> MM crashes: Crash log ID: A04C6FA4
Preumably, what should happen is that if the user attempts to delete the active view, then MM should switch to e.g. the First view in the list.

12) After making an edit to a view, clicking the View switcher doesn't work. i.e.
1 Click Manage views > Browser
2 Check all 4 options, click OK 2x
3 Click the view switcher (not the down button)
--> Nothing happens!
4 Click the 'down' combo box view switcher
--> User can switch views!

13) In Music [Browser], MM5 shows the Collection Browser, Suggested Artists, and Suggested Albums,
1 Click Manage Views > Browser
--> Only Collection Browser is checked off!
i.e. there's a disconnect between the config and what is actually displayed.

14) Re. options for Music [Grid view]:
A) In view configuration for Grid view allows the user to enable the Collection Browser, Suggested Artists, Suggested Albums, Pinned list (even though none of these are relevant to the Grid view (see attached image)
B) Would it make sense to allow the user to enable the Collection browser (this is useful if for Music [Grid], since it's a root node and should allow for switching to other subnodes. Note: this applies to all views at the root node level (i.e. Music [List], Music [List by album])

15) After making edits in Music [Browser], and Music > All views, then when switching from Music to Music > All --> views are corrupted: and display a combination of all views applicable to both nodes! See attached.

I'm stopping testing at this point since I'm no longer sure what is a bug and what is due to corruption in the views.


2019-12-22 20:40

developer   ~0055755

Last edited: 2019-12-22 20:42

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Aside from the above there are several reports that this functionality is broken in 2219 and creates duplicities in the View menu:


2020-01-08 09:31

developer   ~0055820

Image size works globally as CSS/LESS constant so it could be tricky to make it configurable per view.


2020-01-08 09:55

developer   ~0055821

Image size is constant in LESS, and after changing it we need to regenerate whole CSS from LESS, because also several other LESS constants and many styles depend on this constant (text size, line spacing, paddings, margins, positions, etc). So every view would need its own CSS then.


2020-01-13 10:03

developer   ~0055835

Last edited: 2020-01-13 13:47

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2020-02-24 15:40

administrator   ~0056843

I have not yet verified previous fixes, but there are several other user-reported issues that I can replicate:
16) In List views (e.g. Music > All Tracks), Manage Views for List views fails to persist any changes re. Column settings (i.e. Add/Remove/Re-order columns has no effect).

Reported at:

17) Strangely, adding/removing/re-ordering columns within the view or using the Choose Columns functionality works (Barry reported that the changes didn't persist, but I didn't notice that problem. I would however, suggest that 'Choose Columns' dialog be eliminated and that instead it should open the 'Manage views' function for the current view (since that has the Choose Columns functionality as well).


2020-02-25 22:37

administrator   ~0056885

Holding off on this until we decide on 0016391.