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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0005190 | Last.fm plugin | Last.fm | public | 2009-01-13 16:33 | 2010-11-01 15:31 |
| Reporter | rusty | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | urgent | Severity | feature | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Summary | 0005190: Last.fm Scrobbler improvements: Toolbar control | ||||
| Description | The last fm plugin should add support for a couple of new features: 1) Ability to upload play history for devices transparently. e.g. user syncs iPod --> iPod play history is synced to last.fm servers after syncing with MM. This feature should be configurable via: [ ] Submit played tracks from portable devices that autosync with MediaMonkey (the above entry should appear just below 'Submit played tracks...' and indented) 2) The plugin should have an optionally active toolbar button as discussed at: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34954 Modes would be: Active / Inactive / Caching | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Fixed in build | |||||
| related to | 0003844 | closed | peke | Last.fm plugin | Last.FM Native Support |
| related to | 0005425 | assigned | peke | Last.fm plugin | Last.fm: favorites functionality |
| related to | 0005671 | assigned | peke | Last.fm plugin | Last-fm plugin: ability to cache/submit playhistory from devices |
| related to | 0005672 | feedback | petr | MMW v4 | Scripted toolbars can't be customized |
| child of | 0005664 | new | MMW v4 | More Device <-> PC sync events |
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you might also consider adding toolbar buttons for love/ban like available on the last.fm tray app. |
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Good Point Teknojunky. 3) Determine best way to Incorporate MM rating system to last.fm love/ban rating system. Something like: Classify >= 3.5 Stars as Love on last.fm Classify <= 2 Stars as Ban on last.fm |
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3) No, the love/ban does not really have anything to do with ratings as far as last.fm is concerned, its more for fine tuning their algorithms for the streaming radios and suggested artists/songs. the way it works on either the tray app, or your last.fm profile page is simply 2 buttons/links, to mark the current/selected track as 'loved' or 'banned'. My suggestion is simply to add the 2 toolbar buttons that will then mark the track as directed and include it within the scrobbler submission. I assumed your already using the last.fm v2 web services, it should just be a matter of flagging a track during submission. see r[0]=<rating> section @ http://www.last.fm/api/submissions actually, re-reading that section appears to indicate that the submission currently does not modify the user profile, and that ban and skip are only for radio sources. to do it right, appears to require http://www.last.fm/api/show/?service=260 http://www.last.fm/api/show/?service=261 which might be out of scope for the scrobbler plugin as it currently exists |
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3) Some Clarification: Plugin uses Pure protocol 1.2.1 for submissions and not v2 web services that's why there is low latency on Submissions. v2 web services API usage is reserved for future versions of plugin or additional services plugin that will only utilize v2 web services. |
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Added in v1.0.2.10 2) Added cache only Function in Plugin thru using SDB.IniFile.BoolValue("Last.FM","CacheOnly") in scripts. Plugin now have three States a) Active - > Plugin Enabled, Cache Only Disabled = Normal behavior as in previous plugins b) Caching -> Plugin Enabled, Cache Only Enabled = Every Submission should not be sent to last.fm profile but it should be saved into last.fm cache c) Inactive -> Plugin Disabled, Cache Only Enabled/Disabled = Cache Only setting is ignored and no tracks are submitted and/or Cached Will inform Big_Berny so that he can update his Script that we can latter include in Plugin Distribution |
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QuickButton script has been updated. Waiting for release. As Teknojnky said it's dangerous to automatically lave/ban songs according to ratings. Specially if you use autoratings... |
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I just tested my latest unreleased Last.fm QuickButton script with the latest Last.fm-submitter and it mostly works. The only problem I noticed is, that CacheOnly=1 doesn't work if NowPlaying=1. Because if NowPlaying=1 www.last.fm still seems to track the plays. I can tune the QuickButton script so that NowPlaying is also set to 0 when CacheOnly is set to 1 but IMHO the plugin should do that by itself. |
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It is not Bug it is feature Now Playing is Completely Separated from Scrobbling So you can disable Scrobbling but announce Now playing your Quick Button works only for scrobbling and not for now playing. What do you suggest? |
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But the song doesn't only show up in "Now listening" but also get scrobbled! Maybe it's last.fm-related that all "Now listening"-tracks also get scrobbled, I don't know. I'd tell the plugin that it shouldn't send a song as now playing if CacheOnly=1. |
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Another nice and easy-to-do feature would be a SubmitNow-feature. This would be useful if you use CacheOnly and then want to submit the cached plays. At the moment we have to play a new song to do that. |
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Fixed 2) in v1.0.2.17 quick enable/disable toolbar icon is added and based on LastfmQuickButton by Big_berny |
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1) Added new bug 0005664 to better cover issue, Maybe it should be added as new bug completely due the fact that MM core do not have support for sync events yet and Last.fm have not yet clear things up if and how device playcounts are handled. |
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I've verified item 2 in build 1.0.2.17. Item 1 has been opened in a new feature bug. I haven't migrated item 3 to a new bug--I think the issue should be discussed in the forum since I can't really understand the need for a parallel rating system. |
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Re-opening because 0005672 can't be fixed in MM, so I'm wondering if it's possible for the script to control whether the toolbar entry is added or not. Also, I don't quite understand why there's an icon for Lyrics and Comment Viewer added--that has nothing to do with scrobbling?! |
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As talked on IM a) Toolbar issues Should be handled thru 0005672 I updated possible Fast Fix that do not make issues and break current functionality and when that bug is resolved we can reopen this issue for updating plugin on reflecting changes in $5672 Until than we can handle Visible Status using Visible property of http://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/index.php/SDBMenuItem#ISDBMenuItem_members b) Not possible to create with Last.fm scrobbler plugin as it only add 1 toolbar icon with three states |
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Fixed in v1.0.2.18 a) Visible status of Scrobbler Toolbar icon is now controlled thru Last.fm service Options |
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verified |
