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0003785MMW v4Synchronizationpublic2008-11-20 17:19
Reporterrusty Assigned To 
PriorityhighSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status resolvedResolutionduplicate 
Product Version3.0 
Summary0003785: iPod Synchronization: Browse by letter doesn't proceed alphabetically
DescriptionSome iPods apparently have a feature that allows the user to browse tracks by letter. On these iPods, if MM has 'ignore prefixes' enabled, the scan by letter index alternates between the current letter and "T," for artists with the stopword "the," for example. So it goes A-T-B-T-C-T etc.
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related to 0003804 closedpetr Album Art View: Alphabetic grouping is out of order 

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jiri

2007-10-18 18:59

administrator   ~0011430

As discussed over IM, Rusty will find out more about how to reproduce this.

rusty

2007-10-18 19:43

administrator   ~0011432

Resolving as NAB until we get more definitive repro steps (it seems that there is no such alphabetical browser on the iPod video).

rusty

2007-10-22 15:15

administrator   ~0011460

Last edited: 2007-10-22 20:26

OK, I figured out how to reproduce this:

On the iPod, go to Music > Artists and scroll a lot
--> a letter will appear in the middle of the screen indicating what letters are being scrolled through. When this happens, the letter seems to continually switch between the Alphabetic order and T.

I suspect that the only way to resolve this is to disable the 'Ignore 'the'' for the purposes of iPod Synchronization.

rusty

2007-10-22 20:31

administrator   ~0011465

More info from David:
If I use mm 2.5 to repair the index, it doesn't create the scan-by-letter index.

If I use iTunes after rebuilding with mm3, iTunes resorts the artists so that "The" is no longer ignored and all artists with "The" are now grouped together.

rusty

2007-10-22 21:12

administrator   ~0011466

Deferring to collect customer feedback. The reason is that there's no perfect solution for this:

(5:03:39 PM) Jirka: I can change the order of tracks, but then there's the issue as described in 0003785. I think that the only way (if we don't turn the feature off completely) is to transform Artist name, for example:
The Who -> Who, The
(5:04:21 PM) Rusty: yeah, that would work, but would have to be configurable.
(5:04:33 PM) Rusty: We could use existing strings for this, though.
(5:05:30 PM) Rusty: i.e. 'Ignore prefixes when sorting by Artist ______'

rusty

2007-10-31 10:28

administrator   ~0011715

According to users, this does work correctly with the iPod. i.e. prefixes are ignored, but the iPod doesn't show letters for the prefix. See:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22107

jiri

2008-11-20 17:19

administrator   ~0015032

As far as I remember, this was fixed as a part of another issue. As this moment there shouldn't be any problem, in case it is, I'd need to know which MM version is used and which iPod model.