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0004857MMW v4Main Panel/Toolbars/Menuspublic2008-11-10 22:07
Reporterpetr Assigned To 
PriorityurgentSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Fixed in Version3.1 
Summary0004857: Grouping tracks to Unknown albums
DescriptionIn current implementation tracks without Album/Album Artist value are grouped into Unknown albums using Artist field of these tracks. So every Unknown album have tracks with same Artist.

In previous implementation was only one Unknown album with all tracks without Album/Album Artist value.

This was changed to current implementation because of users, who mentioned that they have one Unknown album with many tracks and it's really hard to correctly tag these tracks.

Jiri's mentioned that current implementation is little confusing to have more than one Unknown album.

From one point of view i agree with Jiri that this can look confusing, but from users view i think it's better to have it this way instead of one album for all these tracks.
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Fixed in build1187

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rusty

2008-09-25 14:28

administrator   ~0014656

I just tested out the current implementation and it makes a lot of sense to me. The fact that the tracks are grouped by Album when the sort is by album (rather than being lumped into a single group containing multiple albums) is the way I would expect the tracks to be displayed.

I would recommend resolving as won't fix.

Note: I am assuming that this issues applies to Album Artist / Album Art+Details views.

jiri

2008-09-26 20:36

administrator   ~0014663

Let me try to explain what I don't like about the current implementation: if you have AA view of many tracks that don't have either Album Artist or Album field assigned and they differ only on Artist field, what you see is a bunch of AA like:

ABBA - Waterloo
Beatles - Abbey Road
Unknown - Unknown
Unknown - Unknown
Unknown - Unknown
Unknown - Unknown
Unknown - Unknown

I.e. you see Unknown - Unknown pair for each track with different Artist in the view. This can be pretty annoying in a view with a lot of such tracks. I wanted to start this discussion in order to try to come to a conclusion whether this really is a problem and whether we can do anything about it.

From my point of view, I'd rather see all such tracks grouped in a single Unknown - Unknown item. Another alternative is to add some option/switch and completely eliminate such items from AA view, since they don't make much sense. That said, I'm afraid that this kind of filtering will cause some problems.

Any thoughts?

rusty

2008-09-29 19:47

administrator   ~0014672

OK, I see what you mean. In such cases--where MM doesn't 'know' that the tracks are, in fact, from different albums (i.e. where neither the Album Artist, nor the Album title are known), it could make sense to group the tracks together.

In any other case, though, where there is a reason to expect that the tracks are from different albums, the tracks should be grouped separately.

petr

2008-10-01 11:31

developer   ~0014686

Fixed in 1187. Tracks without Album field will be grouped into one Unknown album.

rusty

2008-10-02 01:00

administrator   ~0014689

I could use a bit of clarification: The last comment seems to indicate that Tracks are now grouped into a single Unknown Album whenever the Tracks are missing the _Album field_.

Is that really the case? I thought that the implementation would be that tracks would be grouped into a single album whenever the Tracks are missing the Album field AND the Artist field for all the tracks are identical AND the Album Artist field for all the tracks are identical !

Thx.

petr

2008-10-02 09:38

developer   ~0014691

In current implementation :
Track1 - Album = <empty>, Album Artist = <empty>
Track2 - Album = <empty>, Album Artist = <empty>
Track3 - Album = <empty>, Album Artist = Queen
Track4 - Album = <empty>, Album Artist = REM

There will be 3 albums :
Unknown - Unknown (contains Track1 and Track2)
Unknown - Queen (contains Track3)
Unknown - REM (contains Track4)