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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000198 | MMW v4 | Player | public | 2003-03-18 04:29 | 2004-09-06 02:19 |
| Reporter | rusty | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | low | Severity | text | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | open | ||
| Summary | 0000198: Investigate bundling opportunities | ||||
| Description | Functionality can be quickly expanded by bundling some key plug-ins. Review licenses and verify with authors the possibility of including some plug-ins. Plug-ins of interest: Input: -MAD -CDreader -Video for winamp Effects: Defx Wow DFX Dee2 Chronotron | ||||
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Some more possibilities: - VID4WA would be good, but it is probably quite unstable now - some visualization plug-in (Geiss) |
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Status re. MAD: -It _reportedly_ improves audio quality, and solves some playback trouble with problem MP3s -It _does_ reduce CPU utilization slightly We can include it if we wish: it is licensed per the following terms: This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. Send inquiries, comments, bug reports, suggestions, patches, etc. to the author, or visit the SourceForge project to contribute to the public forums or submit bug reports or patches there. I would suggest that we include it with the beta instead of the standard MP3 input plug-in, and use the beta as a testing ground for this. |
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Status re. CD Reader: Sent e-mail 3/21 to copah@parad.ru Re-sent 4/1, 4/21 edited on: 04-22 12:40 Received permission 4/23. edited on: 04-24 20:06 |
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Status re. Chronotron: Sent e-mail 4/1 to 'ianier@hotmail.com'. Awaiting feedback. resent 4/20. Received permission on 4/23: Yes, you may copy all the files included with the Chronotron II package (that is, dsp_chrono.dll, FastPV.dll and Chronotron.txt) to you own directory during setup and display the Chronotron.txt file at the end of setup. However, I require you to include the following information in the about box of your program: 1 - "Chronotron II (C) Ianier Munoz" 2 - A link to www.chronotron.com edited on: 04-22 11:58 edited on: 04-24 20:05 |
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Status re. Defx: Sent e-mail 4/1 to ancelot@directo.cl. Awaiting feedback. Note: Readme/instructions aren't included in the s/w package. They are at: http://www.ancelot.8k.com/index.htm Received permission from Franco Catrin to redistribute this package on 4/3. He also requested that we include a link to the linux version of the product which is at defx.sourceforge.net . edited on: 04-04 00:04 |
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Status re. Dfx: Sent e-mail 4/1 to dfxhelp@fxsound.com. Awaiting feedback. Note: I won't pursue Dee2 or Wow unless this deal doesn't work out because: Dee2: significantly higher CPU utilization Wow: Not as good quality as Dfx or Dee2 5/1: Received permission to redistribute the version of Dfx posted to: http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/129468-V2QS/dfx_for_winamp.exe We also have a revenue sharing agreement through which they pay us 30% of revenues from DFX purchased via a specific url--we'll use this on our www site. edited on: 05-01 15:51 |
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Re. MAD: It isn't so easy, I have already asked for it in the past, but I got answer similar to the current text located on the MAD web page, which is: License MAD is available under the terms of the GNU General Public License, Version 2, for either permanent use or for evaluation prior to obtaining a commercial license. Please note that under the GPL, there is absolutely no warranty of any kind. Commercial, non-GPL licensing is also available. Please contact us to discuss possible license terms. It means that Songs-DB would need to be fully GPLed product in order to use MAD or purchasing the license would be necessary. I am also not sure what would it mean regarding license to the mp3 format itself. |
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The fact that MAD is GPLed doesn't imply that if it's distributed with Songs-DB that SDB must be GPLed. Apparently, a GPLed component can be redistributed with a non-GPLed product provided that the GPLed component is indeed a separate component that interfaces to other non-GPL components via a defined 'non-interactive' interface. The situation is not black and white. On one hand, the GPL Faq implies that a GPLed .dll cannot be included with a non-GPLed work: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLInProprietarySystem However, the GPL ( http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html ) also indicates that: "In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other work under the scope of this License." i.e. it is possible to redistribute a GPLed component, providing that the component is considered separate from the rest of the application. Monta-vista Software, interprets the GPL similarly, to mean that bundling _is_ permitted, providing that the _components_ with linkage to GPL code is GPLed: http://www.mvista.com/products/faq.html#q9 The best example that I've found in which all of these factors actually played out is Vidomi. They included a GPLed product with their product which wasn't GPLed. The FSP allowed this because Vidomi agreed to GPL the components that they'd written/modified that communicate dynamically with the GPLed components (even as they retained a proprietary license for other components). See the details at: http://www.vidomi.org/article.php?sid=1&mode=&order=0&thold=0 One final note: if we GPL any components, it doesn't mean that we give up rights vis a vis software copyright. It only means that we have to make source code available for the GPLed components, and those components of SDB that must be GPLed by virtue of linkage to other GPLed components. Question: According to bug #33, LAME and ID3Lib are licensed via the GPL. Why are you worried about MAD, but not about these 2 libraries? |
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Lame and ID3lib are both licensed via LGPL, which means that they are supposed to be used exactly as they are in Songs-DB - as DLLs, user must be informed about the possibility to download the source code, any modification to the libraries must be published. GPL is another issue, one of my friends (lawyer) was interested in this topic and he thinks that this kind of using GPLed product isn't possible. The question is, how separate is plug-in from the main product. Nevertheless, I think that the most important here is the point of view of the author, which is quite clear from what is written on MAD's homepage - he wants to get money from commercial usage. In any case we can contact him and get some new information, I contacted him 1-2 years ago. |
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Status re. stereo expander: Received permission from Sylvain Machel to include this plug-in. It's small, simple, works nicely, and is well-rated. http://classic.winamp.com/plugins/detail.jhtml;$sessionid$G0S51PURUWGFI5YAAAARC0A?componentId=61461 |
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Reducing priority to 'Low' because: -MAD is bundled -DeFX is bundled -Stereo expander is bundled -A Separate bug tracks CD Reader bundling -A Separate bug tracks DFX bundling -A Separate bug will be created for Vid4WA The only additional plug-in we may want to bundle for the 2.1 release is Pacemaker, however, this is low priority. |
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Closing. This is no longer an issue. |
