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0000481MMW v4Main Panel/Toolbars/Menuspublic2008-11-25 06:12
Reporterrusty Assigned To 
PriorityhighSeverityfeatureReproducibilityalways
Status assignedResolutionopen 
Summary0000481: 'find more from same' via hyperlinks (missing genre and edit context menu)
DescriptionAs we've cleaned up the hierarchy and made it unambiguous what moving a track between nodes does, we've also eliminated one of the features of Songs-DB--the ability to browse a collection through hyperlink-like nodes.

This feature is an idea of how to add that functionality back in a more understandable fashion.

Part I -- 'Hyperlinks' in the tree:
At the top or at the bottom of the tree, would be a small box that indicated:

Artist: Name of Artist or 'Various' if multiple
Album: Name of Album or blank if multiple
Year: Year or blank if multiple
Genre: Genre or blank if multiple

For any node that the user clicked, these fields update, and allow the user to immediately browse/hyperlink to related tracks.

Part II - Hyperlinks in Now Playing list
Same as above, but information appears at the top of the Now Playing List and can be hyperlinked.

Part III - Hyperlinks in context sensitive search box
Once we implement the context-sensitive search (see bug #95, 0000347), it would be useful to add this functionality into that box.
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Relationships

related to 0001612 closedpetr Album Art Views 
related to 0002996 closedpetr Album Art View: Album Properties dropdown appears in the middle of Album Art 
related to 0003163 new Find more from same via Hyperlinks in all views 

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rusty

2003-09-02 19:49

administrator   ~0002242

Implementation note: as far as what happens when the user clicks Artist: Eagles or Year: 1920 -- It would probably make the most sense for the files that are 'found' to appear in the Search Results area (described in bug #95) rather than switching the active portion of the tree/tracklist.

rusty

2007-02-09 19:05

administrator   ~0008553

Last edited: 2007-02-09 19:10

A user has written in about how useful they find this functionality in Windows Media Player 11 where it works a bit different. In some views, rather than links being editable, they are simply hyperlinked.

For example, this could work as follows in MM:

1) In the player: If the Artist, Album, Year, Genre, or Composer is displayed and the user clicks on it, then the tracklist updates as if the user clicked 'find more from same'.

2) In the tracklist: If the user is in 'Browse mode' (vs Edit Mode) then Artist, Album, Year, Genre, Composer function as hyperlinks rather than as editable elements.

The question is, what is 'Browse mode'. In WMP, the approach taken is that:
-The Albums folder has the Album Attributes editable by default
-All other folders has the Album Attributes linkable by default

Note: to make hyperlinking more useful, the following fields should be displayed to the right of Album Art (in addition to the current fields):
Year (since this is always an Album attribute)
Genre (multiple, never editable)
Composer (multiple, never editable)

jiri

2007-03-09 17:45

administrator   ~0008756

I think that we could make hyperlinks from Artist and Album titles on Album Art view, because these fields aren't editable anyway - it's the way WMP11 works too and it seems to be good.

Then it would probably make sense to create a panel (as originally described in this issue) that would show some basic track information - containing hyperlinks to artist, album, ...

rusty

2007-03-09 19:16

administrator   ~0008757

I agree that the first and easiest step would be to implement this in the Album Art-details view.

In terms of which fields to hyperlink, I agree with you-though it would be nice to be able to hyperlink others as well (though this could be done at a later stage). Presumably, you're saying that you don't like the idea of edit vs browse modes, and that the better approach would be to have a small 'Metadata box' for the selected or playing track (perhaps an expension to the Album Art dialog) that would allow the user to view/link or edit metadata). I haven't checked out MonkeyRok, but I suspect it would be something like that.

jiri

2007-03-10 19:27

administrator   ~0008765

Yes, I'd prefer some 'Metadata box' (could be small, but when enlarged, more info could be shown, even Album Art, Lyrics, etc.) over Edit/Browse modes. I haven't checked out MonkeyRok recently, but probably something like this would be fine.

Feel free to assign to Petr at least the first part for now (hyperlinks in Album Art view).

rusty

2007-03-11 14:55

administrator   ~0008767

Last edited: 2007-04-12 19:40

Assigning to Petr for Part I so that hyperlink-based navigation is implemented in Album Art Details view. Specifically:

<Album Title> --> Find more from same album
<Artist> --> Find more from same Artist
<Year> --> Find more from same Year
<Genre> --> Find more from same Genre (note: Genre should appear by default)

Also: for any of these fields:
-field should be underlined on mouseover to indicate hyperlink
-right click on the field should give 'Edit' as an option for in-place editing

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An alternative, but perhaps better implementation would use icons next to the fields rather than changing the fields to hyperlinks. That would preserve in place editing, while allowing for the new hyperlinking functionality.

e.g. to the right of each of the fields in question there would be a tiny arrow that appears on mouseover that the user can click to 'Find more from same'.

user_Dale

2007-04-13 18:33

updater   ~0009008

Last edited: 2007-04-13 18:36

In 'mexp' for winamp, a similar effect is achieved by making every cell in the tracklist a hyperlink of sort.

It does this by putting the contents of the cell directly in the search box when the user ctrl-right-click's the cell.

This could be implemented in the same way which would be very useful and / or it could use the data in a "more-from-same" jump.

implementing this would actually mean the right-click more-from-same set of options could become one option, rather than a branch, as it would be context sensitive.

Using ctrl-right click to do a more-from-same based on the clicked cell's info, and using alt-right click to do a search using the cell's info are two fairly simple implementations of the hyperlink idea that are powerful and quick for the user. - As well as having the options close at hand in the right click menu for those not aware of the shortcuts.

jiri

2007-04-17 14:51

administrator   ~0009034

This suggestion makes sense to me, it would be a nice addition. Assigning to Rusty for a review, so that we can decide whether to update the specs and assign to Petr then.

rusty

2007-06-25 17:31

administrator   ~0009569

I moved Dale's suggestion to a new bug, since it's really a new feature, that would get implemented independently of this.

re-assigning to Petr to resolve the following:
<Genre> --> Find more from same Genre -- this isn't implemented in the Album art/Details view.

-right click on the hyperlinked field should give 'Edit' as an option for in-place editing

rusty

2007-09-24 01:33

administrator   ~0010915

This is implemented as best as possible for 3.0. We need to think about further improvements for the future. --> Rusty